My Idea (Please read)

[Admin]

I have thought of something. Why dont we, the active players in MILK, create a tribe for ourselves? We would try and get a NAP with BANG! (as they are clearly better) and attack DAIRY noobs, Virus and the rest of the players we cant attack? Of course we would do this when we finish the K32 Op.

This can make us expand on the north, be protected from BANG! on the south (if they accept the NAP) and have a cleaner forum.

What do you think? Please feel free to post your opinion, this is just an idea as I am tired of waiting for our tribe leader to return.

manoalorts

[Admin]

Also I would like to clarify that I am no tribe hopper and am loyal to the tribe Im in, especially to the group of players in that tribe who are helpful. That is why I have thought of this. If not then I will stay with you till the end and we will fight BANG!. But I have realized that they are too organized for us to win. I am in the north, meaning that I am not in danger or scared about my villages. What I see is that with this little organisation where the members are the only ones who care; send circular mails, ask for support, organize attacks.. and the duke is away we will eventually lose. BANG! may see that they will still have targets and may decide to accept the NAP. This can make us rebuild and be prepared for any attacks by them. Who knows, they may even want us to be like a "daughter" tribe.
There would be no leaders. It will be a democracy. All with duke privs and a vote carried each time for important decisions.

I am no coward or traitor, I just think its the best way to survive. Lordstar and Wills have lost too many villages alredy. BANG! in K42 and CND in K33 are killing MILK thanks to our wonderful leader JamieRed leaving for unknown reasons (banned?)

manoalorts

[wills370]

hmm, i like the prinicple of the idea.

Although i am unsure as to how far we could go before BANG stab us in the back or indeed milk if they ever get themselves sorted out.

have you tryd messaging BANG about it?

Or do you wish me to etc?

[Grimmnn]

Guys, I'm not entirely convinced this is a good plan. Here are my reasons:
1) I think Virus and Milk would move in on us and BANG might or might not ally... The tribe would be quite small. I don't see why they would bother with allying.
2) MILK is still pretty big and has alot of active players although not all that many in K42 perhaps. However, we can still count on these players for support, something we can't do if we leave.
3) Jamie's been gone since the 13th? Or is he back?
4) I have moved from DOOM to BoB and then from BoB to MILK.
5) I don't want to attack ex-DOOM members as well as some other members now in MILK/DAIRY.
6) I would need to see a map of what this proposed tribe would look like. I don't want to be flooded by nearby MILK/DAIRY attacks.

However, I have looked at the stats and I see the war with BANG and CND are not going well at all. Something needs to be done. If we do this, we need to have strong guarantees from both Virus and BANG! I could contact fwinyusha (Virus Baron) and see where he might stand on this...

[wills370]

Guys, I'm not entirely convinced this is a good plan. Here are my reasons:
1) I think Virus and Milk would move in on us and BANG might or might not ally... The tribe would be quite small. I don't see why they would bother with allying.
2) MILK is still pretty big and has alot of active players although not all that many in K42 perhaps. However, we can still count on these players for support, something we can't do if we leave.
3) Jamie's been gone since the 13th? Or is he back?
4) I have moved from DOOM to BoB and then from BoB to MILK.
5) I don't want to attack ex-DOOM members as well as some other members now in MILK/DAIRY.
6) I would need to see a map of what this proposed tribe would look like. I don't want to be flooded by nearby MILK/DAIRY attacks.

However, I have looked at the stats and I see the war with BANG and CND are not going well at all. Something needs to be done. If we do this, we need to have strong guarantees from both Virus and BANG! I could contact fwinyusha (Virus Baron) and see where he might stand on this...

Alright you contact him.

i have the same problems with attacking DOOM members. But i think there would be enough MILK and DAIRY to attack.

i did however look over at getting support from other areas of the tribe. But unfortunatly from there responses CND are taking alot higher priority and they said they would be unable to send support. OR very little at most.
All the support is going to people fighting CND (which is abit crap if you ask me)

i havent talked to jamie in over a few weeks.
last i new he was band for a while for having to many lines of text on his profile picture. So we was off for a week and i dont think he has been back since.

WE COULD HOWEVER PUT FORWARD THE TRIBE AS A TEMPORARY ONE TO AVOID THE REFUGEE STATUS WE WOULD GET IF WE JOINED BANG.....and then when MILK and DAIRY are alot smaller. We could well move into BANG, i know i would enjoy it more been in a big tribe full of active players. and from what attacks ive had id say they are very active lol

whats people thoughts?
ill try and get a map done if i have abit of time

[Grimmnn]

I looked at the stats for CND and it isn't exaggerated - we've lost as much villages to them as we have to BANG...

[Admin]

why not all of us join BANG! then? Also I would contact them with the idea of joining them and the offer of creating a sister/daughter tribe of BANG! too...?

manoalorts

[Adamski8588]

Virus is looking to attack us as milk when we are weak from fighting Bang... so by dividing up our force we invite people to attack both milk and our new tribe. I agree something must be done... but i dont think it should be this... not yet.

And i dont trust Virus as far as i can throw them... And i doubt Bang would let us walk away from this...

i dont know what to say...

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[Marcobellini]

it s a very hard situation we have a lot of choise but i don t know witch will be the best for us, i will follow what you decide.

[Admin]

seing your replies I think its best if we wait for some time. But remember that if BANG! start killing MILK they may decide to not let us in if we chose the option of joining them... the K32 op has been a great op between us which shows how good we are but BANG! are alot stronger in the south so when they move north... we will have a tough battle.
"vhon03 today at 01:43aren't we having trouble with milk with that? but if you guys want it, i will join you." (Reply from Vhon)

Thank you everyone for your opinions! This forum will be kept open for any other things we want to disscuss! you can always open a topic and mass mail us so that we can login here and see it!

manoalorts

ps: here are the people we can count on for future changes:
Adamski8588
dellid
Grimmnn
lordstar
Marcobellini
vhon03
wills370

[Grimmnn]

How about we join Virus? THey are allied with Milk...

[wills370]

How about we join Virus? THey are allied with Milk...

Dont think virus are to be trsted. They are to likly to stab us in the back, and they re to small to be hounest. They will be wiped out with the oncoming CND and BANG

[Grimmnn]

Well, they might be small, but they are definitely larger than the lot of us would be. Also, they are quite efficient - look at the speed with which they wiped out the Randoms. Honestly, I'd prefer staying with MILK. But if the tribe does disintegrate, I'd rather not join the guys we are fighting...

[Admin]

Thats true grimmn.. but they wouldnt help us much on K42-south.. they are based on K32.
I think that the 3 options are MILK, indipendent and BANG! I think we should stay in MILK for some days. Lets see how the ops on BANG! go and then we will decide whether we should stay in MILK or become indipendent and fight BANG! or they are too strong and we should join BANG!.

[Grimmnn]

Yeah... I agree. I heard from their leader that they are also at war with BANG!. However, if Virus is K32 based, it's also true that BANG! is K52 based. Frankly, at the moment, I don't feel like joining either. Also, if we do join, this would probably be the downfall of MILK, or at least make the tribe much weaker. I think we should not decide to leave lightly.